Yahoo! SCOX Review

Message ID: 200957 Posted By: crunchie812 Posted On: 2004-10-30 12:52:00 Subject: Linux Co. sues IBM for using Linux! Recs: 18 There is no SCO. The Santa Cruz Operation is no more. The non-Unix portion of that company is now Tarantella. The Unix portion was bought by Canopy-controlled Caldera, a Linux distributor, developer, and contributor, with its IPO proceeds. This was an attempt to combine a failing Linux business with a failing Unix business into a profitable whole. Under good, independent leadership this may have been possible. Unfortunately Ralph Yarro gutted and dismembered this combined entity by spinning off and selling its bests hopes, leaving a more rapidly failing company. Darl McBride was brought in when the hemmoraging pig was a few quarters away from becoming a bloodless carcass. There are many executives who are known for their ability to come into an ailing organization and restoring it to profitability. Darl McBride is not one of them. He is primar...

Message ID: 198962 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2004-10-28 11:31:00 Subject: Mind boggling, when I look at the big Recs: 29 picture. Here is this tiny company, on the brink of being delisted. They loudly claim to be the owner of the UNIX operating system. They have: - no patents - no registered copyrights of any significants - no trademarks - apparently, no trade secrets That anybody could take their insanely overblown claims seriously, for even one second, is amazing. This same company loudly claims, in deference to all evidence and logic, that by extension they also own Linux, and BSD, and C/C++. They scream that could prove this, if they wanted to, they just don't want to. Yeah, right. When the GPL gets in the way of their ludicrous claims, they declare the GPL is not only invalid, but unconstitution. As usual this claim defies all logic and evidence. But scox fully expects everybody to believe them, and very publicly writes congress about the matter...

Message ID: 195650 Posted By: diogenese19348 Posted On: 2004-10-20 16:39:00 Subject: Tin Foil Hat Time Recs: 51 OK, everybody put on your best tin foil hat, and gather at the feet of kindly old Uncle Dio. A couple of points I have been pondering. What if... It is obvious by now that SCOX does not have any proof of copying SysV code into Linux, and never did. They have all but admitted it in court. So since they never did, why would Darl ever have believed there might be precious SCOX IP in Linux? So what was the plan? Pump and dump? Consider this. None of the people behind this scam - McBride, Sontag, Stowell, even Yarrow, have sold any stock during the run up. I am pretty sure of that, though I have not verified all the Form 4's. We will get back to that in a moment. Consider something else: Caldera was a company on the verge of bankruptcy, and it was pretty obvious there was no way out. Their Linux line was a failure, and the Unix business they bought ...

Message ID: 195259 Posted By: phandsvrta Posted On: 2004-10-20 06:24:00 Subject: Yesterday only produced more delay Recs: 2 Yesterday, in #194576, I predicted that the hearing would only produce more delay. Looks, unfortunately, as if I was substantially right. Damn, the SCOX stock scam lurches on. They really are good at working the legal system. I wonder how long "under advisement" actually means? ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "phandsvrta" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 191557 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2004-10-12 18:27:00 Subject: of course scox is just a scam Recs: 28 I'd be amazed if anybody actually thought otherwise. - If it weren't a scam, IBM would have offered a settlement over a year ago - rather than risk losing a lawsuit. - If it weren't a scam, ibm stock price would be affected, and ibm investors would be concerned. Same for redhat, novell, autozone, and chrysler. - if it weren't a scam, more companies would have bought into scox-source, rather than risk a justified lawsuit. - If it weren't a scam, then last October, scox would have given ibm the discover that ibm requested in June 2003. Instead scox gamed the system with scanned .pdf files. - If it weren't a scam, scox would have put-up, rather than shut-up in Germany. - If it weren't a scam, there would have been no need for the NDA. - If it weren't a scam, scox would have produced the MIT deep divers. - ...

Message ID: 191388 Posted By: heimdal31 Posted On: 2004-10-12 14:24:00 Subject: Source of ideas Recs: 22 << Nice to see that PJ also does not care to provide proper attribution to contributors. The story about Merkey was broken here, by heimdal31 in msgid 189506 on the 5th, a week ago.>> As Br3n said, someone else could have easiliy e-mailed that information. The only reason I did any digging on Merkey was because Atul666 posted something about a Canopy patent and I was curious. I suspect that the only reason Atul666 has been making his efforts to post link-filled data has been to fight the Grokwar threads--and that was certainly why I bothered to dig into one of his posts. So, since the Grokwars are in part because of PJ, you can just as easily say that PJ was the proximate cause of digging up the Merkey data :-) Seriously, I post stuff here to fight the scam. I post it so that it will get disseminated widely. When I get a new idea from someone else...

Message ID: 191316 Posted By: saltydogmn Posted On: 2004-10-12 11:53:00 Subject: What a bunch of egomaniacal dorks! Recs: 26 I'll bet you thought this was going to be a post about SCO... BZZZT!!! Wrong. It's about US. Back when I first started hearing about the Lindon Losers™, I visited Groklaw often, and it was there that I learned about this very board. I have spent many months reading about all the trials(literally and figuratively) and tribulations of this now all-too-obvious FUD pump and dump scam. It's been quite invigorating to see literally thousands of people shining the brightest of lights on this cast of cockroaches, and I'll be somewhat sad when they are finally delisted, and this board goes away. However, somewhere along the way, several people, who shall remain nameless, but whom everyone already knows, decided that perhaps the end for SCO was truly near, and perhaps, they wanted to take some of the credit for bringing it about. Guess wh...

Message ID: 189187 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2004-10-05 12:23:00 Subject: In defense of the tin-foil hats Recs: 16 Just look at what has come out so far: Msft: a convicted monopolist with a long history of abusive and illegal business practises is found to be secretly arranging financing for a small company to file a series of bogus lawsuits against companies associated with using or promoting products that compete with msft products. Giving msft shills an opportunity to scream about linux being legally encubered. Deutsch Bank: an institution with a long history of fraud, aggressively, and mysteriously, supporting scox. To the point officially targeting an absurd price target of $45. Sunw: probably the company with the most to fear from Linux in the near term, was found to be secretly supporting scox's little scam. RBC: after all this time, we still don't know their "mystery client" why not? Canopy: a mini-Enron, with a controlling intere...

Message ID: 188456 Posted By: stats_for_all Posted On: 2004-10-04 02:12:00 Subject: Bricks in the John Wall Recs: 27 Brick in the Wall John R. Wall exchanged a $1 MM personal loan to Vista.com for 800K shares of SCOX and $100K cash in August 2002. Simultaneously, SCOX paid $350K for a license and option to purchase 10% of Vista stock. In January 2003, another $250K was paid to Vista to complete the stock purchase in vista.com. In January and April 2003, two loans totaling $200K were made to vista.com by SCOX. Total cash payment into vista from SCOX (including the Wall loan) was $1.8 MM. The $1 MM loan + interest was repaid after Wall sold his SCOX stock. SCO's 10Q represents Wall as the majority stockholder in vista.com. Other sources indicate that "MGN Opportunity Group LLC" was the major stockholder. MGN is a subsidiary of "Matthew G. Norton, Co.", a Seatle area investment bank. MGN is named after the founder of Weyhauser, the source o...