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Message ID: 286686 Posted By: karl_w_lewis Posted On: 2005-07-30 20:43:00 Subject: My, my, Herr Biff Recs: 15 You've had just the very full day haven't you? I've been trying to follow your arguements.. let's see if I've got them right... The SCO Source SCAM is okay, because the SCO License for Linux is a *merged product*, which is specifically allowed for in the Novell-Santa Cruz APA. So, you're saying Caldera put Unixware and Open Sewer Code in Linux? 'Kay. Novell did sell Santa Cruz the copyrights to UnixWare, they just didn't bother writing that down, anywhere. (No one ever told those people to *always* get a reciept?) Caldera's deal with SUN and Microsoft is okay, and Caldera doesn't have to pay Novell any part of it because they weren't licensing UnixWare to those companies. I'm completely willing to accept that; WTF would Microsoft or SUN want with that crufty old operating system? Naturally, however, that ...

Message ID: 286484 Posted By: saltydogmn Posted On: 2005-07-30 09:45:00 Subject: biff the defective centrifuge Recs: 6 I don't care HOW hard you try to massage this devastating head shot, biff. The SCO Group is history. It's a scam, and the courts are learning now what we've known all along; Darl Mc Bride, Ralph Yarro, Blake Stowell, Bert Young, etc., and all their network of supporters, are going to do Federal Pen time for this crime against geeks. I wonder which one of the cabal rats them out first... WAGs, anyone? I personally hope one of them tries to flee the US, and gets caught. That would be fun to see on First Call with David Faber, wouldn't it? (Hey, Darl, how you like us now, bitch?) Faber: Well, there's the video of The SCO Group CEO, Darl Mc Bride, being led off in handcuffs after attempting to flee the United States with a large briefcase; at first, it was believed to be filled with large quantities of cash, or securities, b...

Message ID: 286454 Posted By: manyhats23 Posted On: 2005-07-30 06:58:00 Subject: It's Not About the Contracts & Rights Recs: 9 Over and over, Korbomite kept repeating "it's a stock scam." It's not about the contracts & rights anymore. It's about the illegal FRAUD that Darl and the Caldera/Canopy management attempted to execute. The absolute audacity of this scam is amazing. Novell's COURT FILING (caps for Biff) outlined a chain of willful deceit. Forget Biff and his nit-picking contract bullcrap, IBM will take care of that part. Focus on the scam. Who knew what? Who's gonna rat out who? Which one of "Team Caldera" is gonna cry like a baby when hauled in for questioning? Who's buying one way tickets to a non-extradition country? --m P.S. -- I think Blake and Chris will be the first to rat out Darl and Ralph. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board ...

Message ID: 286427 Posted By: spamsux99 Posted On: 2005-07-30 01:06:00 Subject: Random reflections about the SCOX SCAM Recs: 7 Just read the Novell filing at http://www.finchhaven.com/TSCOG/Novell-78.html. That is one hell of a damning set of counter-claims. It seems Wallace filed against the wrong crowd. How could ANY lawyer see the APA between Santa Cruz and Novell and determine that ANYTHING the SCO Group had to sell was legit? What the hell did Sun and Microsoft actually buy? If it had anything to do with licensing rights to SYSV copyrights, they HAD to know that SCO's claims were under a very heavy cloud of dispute. I am no lawyer, but it looks like Sun, Microsoft, and SCO is the group that Wallace should be suing. Enderle is always ranting about the linux loonies. Turns out the loonies are all firmly entrenched in the SCO/Microsoft/Sun camp. What a threesome, Darl, Wallace, and Merkey. Who'd a thunk it? All I can say is go get 'em, Novell! ...

Message ID: 284974 Posted By: karl_w_lewis Posted On: 2005-07-26 10:18:00 Subject: Biff engages in self-abuse... Recs: 10 Well, that's what it used to be called; now it's just called jerking off. Yeah, pity, isn't it Biffy? Your precious Caldera isn't really The Santa Cruz Operation at all. They are a Linux distributor, and all the damage they claim from IBM's work on Linux used to be an advantage for their business, until they got the bright idea to pay a few millions of dollars for the ancient UNIX codebase. The Caldera Complaint alleges, inter alia, that IBM helped add SMP to Linux, thus unfairly competing with UNIX. But, a quick research of the topic shows that no, it wasn't IBM that put SMP in Linux... it was... yes, Caldera International, who donated the hardware so Alan Cox could improve that feature. We've known all this for some time, Biff, but PJ published an article on it, I suspect, just to provide more information to the p...

Message ID: 281749 Posted By: karl_w_lewis Posted On: 2005-07-15 06:52:00 Subject: So? Biff, how are you? Recs: 6 My, my, my Biffie, love, you sure are posting a lot. Crap-flooding the board, even. You're provocative choice of title may work against you, though, since it tends to draw people into the thread, and really, you don't want them *reading* this crap, just reading the headlines. So, tell me, feeling a little desperate are you? Like the rug just been yanked out from under the whole fscking scam? What were Ralph and Darl thinking? That IBM would just pay them to shut up and go away? Can you name any other cases where someone savaged IBM's reputation in public and then got a settlement out of them? And Biffie, you really need to focus. What PJ says about he case isn't realy nearly as important as what the documents themselves say. PJ could declare tomorrow that she believes the SCOundrels are going to win... and it wouldn't matter,...

Message ID: 281724 Posted By: atul666 Posted On: 2005-07-15 04:59:00 Subject: Poor little ol' Darl Recs: 6 There's just nothing good for Darl in the Davidson memo. First, obviously, there's the increased possibility of legal trouble, which has already been discussed at length here, many many times. I still think he's probably going to get away scot-free. If SCO was a normal company, probably not, but the vast majority of SCO stock is held by a few big funds & institutions, and it seems very likely to me that many of them were in on the scam, and knew the whole thing was a fraud from day 1. I'd put at least Cohen, Renaissance, and Baystar in that category, at minimum. So I think they'd all prefer this stays out of court. They'll just pass the losses along to their own bagholders, and move on with zero consequences. As for criminal charges, it's important to remember that although SCO is fairly infamous, they're also pretty s...