Welcome Brian
Message ID: 294125
Posted By: drichards1953
Posted On: 2005-08-22 11:19:00
Subject: Welcome Brian!
Recs: 26
Brian, I know the story of SCOG is confusing. It is a mess that only seems to get worse, on a daily basis. As Director of Research & Technology for a law firm I follow the cases for several reasons. The lawyers in the firm that handle IP issues are stunned by the case.
Ten years ago I did support Unix in every way possible. It worked, worked well and was not an M$ product. Unix stagnated about five years ago making it nearly worthless to me, except for legacy purposes. Linux has come a very long way, and rightly so.
You also need to understand that the management of CalderaSCO would not know a line of code if it bit them in the butt. The management of oldSCO and Microport clearly knew something about code and coding.
For many of us the Caldera distro of Linux was our first exposure to commercially distributed Linux. It was good, at that time. Had CalderaSCO continued to develop their flavor of Linux the story may be very different. They cose to go the Unix path.
Sadly it was not just the Unix path, but with the filing of the assorted lawsuits they attacked customers. No matter how basic your business knowledge attacking customers is not a good practice, it is stupid. It was no a good thing, clearly not a Martha Stewart moment.
SCO Group is not running a "real" company, they are running a litigation machine that appears to be nothing much more than a huge stock scam, too. SCO Group has few assets outside those they bought from oldSCO, and those assets are clearly disputed. They do not own their building, they do not have any substantial property assets, and obviously there are no goodwill assets. They have given more money to their lawyers in the last few years than they have spent on development. That should be the biggest clue about SCOX.
As I have said before many of us are IT people that post on this board. What CalderaSCO does affect our jobs and how we perform them. Would I suggest any CalderaSCO product for my employer or any of my private clients? Not a chance. I would have in the past, but not now. Filing lawsuits against customers stiffled that for me, and many of us on this board.
If IBM though there was even a remote chance that CalderaSCO was correct in their claims they would have bought them, out of petty cash.I personally think that was what Darl and Ralphie were planning on. IBM called their bluff.
The primary issue in CAlderaSCO v. IBM is did IBM insert CalderaSCO IP into Linux? IBM has never sold an IBM distro of Linux, Caldera has.While IBM has aided the development of Linux, they have, to my knowledge, always sold distros from folks like Suse, Redhat, etc.
Even on a wild fantasy, let's say Judge Kimball declares ther is CalderaSCO IP in Linux. Since Caldera distributed Linux, they, at minimum agreed passively, and what would the damages be? Caldera would have benefitted by insertion of the code and did not disagree to such as THEY sold it too. IBM has not sold a disto under their name.
Sorry if you felt abused on this board. Many of us have grown tired of pumpers, meaning folks pumping this bull crap stock. There is nothing to SCOX except a litigation machine, on what I believe to be bogus litigation.
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Posted By: drichards1953
Posted On: 2005-08-22 11:19:00
Subject: Welcome Brian!
Recs: 26
Brian, I know the story of SCOG is confusing. It is a mess that only seems to get worse, on a daily basis. As Director of Research & Technology for a law firm I follow the cases for several reasons. The lawyers in the firm that handle IP issues are stunned by the case.
Ten years ago I did support Unix in every way possible. It worked, worked well and was not an M$ product. Unix stagnated about five years ago making it nearly worthless to me, except for legacy purposes. Linux has come a very long way, and rightly so.
You also need to understand that the management of CalderaSCO would not know a line of code if it bit them in the butt. The management of oldSCO and Microport clearly knew something about code and coding.
For many of us the Caldera distro of Linux was our first exposure to commercially distributed Linux. It was good, at that time. Had CalderaSCO continued to develop their flavor of Linux the story may be very different. They cose to go the Unix path.
Sadly it was not just the Unix path, but with the filing of the assorted lawsuits they attacked customers. No matter how basic your business knowledge attacking customers is not a good practice, it is stupid. It was no a good thing, clearly not a Martha Stewart moment.
SCO Group is not running a "real" company, they are running a litigation machine that appears to be nothing much more than a huge stock scam, too. SCO Group has few assets outside those they bought from oldSCO, and those assets are clearly disputed. They do not own their building, they do not have any substantial property assets, and obviously there are no goodwill assets. They have given more money to their lawyers in the last few years than they have spent on development. That should be the biggest clue about SCOX.
As I have said before many of us are IT people that post on this board. What CalderaSCO does affect our jobs and how we perform them. Would I suggest any CalderaSCO product for my employer or any of my private clients? Not a chance. I would have in the past, but not now. Filing lawsuits against customers stiffled that for me, and many of us on this board.
If IBM though there was even a remote chance that CalderaSCO was correct in their claims they would have bought them, out of petty cash.I personally think that was what Darl and Ralphie were planning on. IBM called their bluff.
The primary issue in CAlderaSCO v. IBM is did IBM insert CalderaSCO IP into Linux? IBM has never sold an IBM distro of Linux, Caldera has.While IBM has aided the development of Linux, they have, to my knowledge, always sold distros from folks like Suse, Redhat, etc.
Even on a wild fantasy, let's say Judge Kimball declares ther is CalderaSCO IP in Linux. Since Caldera distributed Linux, they, at minimum agreed passively, and what would the damages be? Caldera would have benefitted by insertion of the code and did not disagree to such as THEY sold it too. IBM has not sold a disto under their name.
Sorry if you felt abused on this board. Many of us have grown tired of pumpers, meaning folks pumping this bull crap stock. There is nothing to SCOX except a litigation machine, on what I believe to be bogus litigation.
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