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Message ID: 47559 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2003-09-30 09:33:00 Subject: sunw is tanking - down 15.5% Recs: 0 last time I checked. Guess McSquealy's little scox-scam didn't quite pan out for sunw. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "walterbyrd" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 47064 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-29 12:24:00 Subject: Market Manipulation Recs: 4 From NY AG's office: "Market Manipulation Sophisticated investors may do their own research on suitable investments, rather than rely solely on their broker or investment adviser, but no amount of research can guard against a broker's illegal market manipulation of a micro-cap stock. The price of a stock in a legitimate marketplace is determined by supply and demand, but economic theory goes out the window when market price is controlled by a small number of unethical market makers who drive up the price with hundreds of cold callers, continue to promote the stock while they short-sell it, and then stop making the cold calls necessary to maintain the price. The consequences for investors are devastating when the price falls dramatically, but the brokers won't execute sell orders or even answer phone calls." You can expect this will happen here, ...

Message ID: 45672 Posted By: b29651 Posted On: 2003-09-25 11:08:00 Subject: SCO is TOAST Recs: 0 4 lawsuits against them http://www.linuxworld.com/story/34018.htm http://www.whafh.com/cases/caldera.htm http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/ibm_hist.html http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/industry/0,39001143,39145146,00.htm and dont forget germany isnt thru with them YET austria, australia, poland, netherlands and who knows who else are coming after them hehehehe the stock is falling and that is a beautiful site. are you crying darl? i am laughing and dancing are you feeling the heat darl? i hope so and hope you have sleepless nites ohhhh WHERE ARE THE INVOICES? checked the mail and havent seen one yet hehehehehe i am one of your worst nightmares darl cause i am not even a programmer and i can see the scam you are trying to pull regards br3n ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for ...

Message ID: 45564 Posted By: b29651 Posted On: 2003-09-24 22:02:00 Subject: didio became a joke Recs: 4 she fell hook line and sinker for the whole scam.she doesnt dare open her mouth she has stuck her foot in too many times regards br3n ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "b29651" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 45231 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-24 11:16:00 Subject: Floyds Void Recs: 0 "As far as I know, all this stuff is perfectly legal. Either the customer uses their existing libraries to populate the /linux tree, or SCO could provide the binaries themselves, as long as they also provide the source. Look, I want SCO to fall, and fall hard. I even work for IBM. But I don't see anything here that's a smoking gun. In fact, theoretically I could use these ideas to make s390/linux executables run on my proprietary z/os system. " What would an IBM employee be doing posting here? No IBM employee would do that. If you are an IBM eployee, you should not be posting here, and I imagine that IBM Legal would not look too kindly on that. I suspect though, that you aren't employed by IBM, because they typically have much better sense than to post here, especially during litigation between the two companies. They have a legal team that has no doubt...

Message ID: 44305 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-22 01:14:00 Subject: More without disclosure Recs: 15 What bothers me the most about all of these links is that they are going after the Retirees funds. So to the pumpers out there that are saying there is nothing criminal in all of this - BULLSHIT. The links are promoting SCOX on Morningstar Retirement Planner pages. Who reads that? Retirees and soon to be retirees. These people see these awesome returns and get NO FACTS whatsoever of the truth. http://cgi.money.cnn.com/mstar/FundLookup?symbol=RYTVX That bugs me, it infuriates me and it makes me demand that disclosure needs to exist and be totally enforced. To a person looking only at the way they present this information, the SCO Group looks fantastic. In essence though, it is all window dressing and taking money away from retirees to enrich Darl, et al. So the next person who say that this stock is a fundamentally sound buy - think about it again. They are t...

Message ID: 43423 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-18 10:57:00 Subject: Relevant Information and Disclosure Recs: 14 From the SEC: "An investment adviser has a duty to disclose to clients all material information which might incline an investment adviser consciously or unconsciously to render advice which is not disinterested. SEC v. Capital Gains Research Bureau, Inc., 375 U.S. 180, 191-92 (1963). A fact is material if there is a substantial likelihood that a reasonable investor would consider it important. Basic, Inc. v.Levinson, 485 U.S. 224, 231-232 (1988). Soft dollar arrangements are material because of the potential conflict of interest arising from an adviser's receipt of some benefit in exchange for directing brokerage on behalf of client accounts. See Kingsley, Jennison, McNulty & Morse, Inc., 51 S.E.C. 904, 909 (Dec. 23, 1993); Interpretive Release Concerning the Scope of Section 28(e) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Exchange Act Rel...

Message ID: 43350 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2003-09-18 06:37:00 Subject: Of course it's a scam. Recs: 2 That's not even worth discussing anymore. The only things to discuss now are: what's there next move and can they get away with it? Forget scox winning any lawsuits, that doesn't even matter very much. Maybe the only thing that matters is fud money. As long as sunw-msft keep throwing gobs at money at scox, then scox will be profitable. I think that is all that the longs are counting on. So far, the longs seem to be right. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "walterbyrd" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 43124 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-17 14:52:00 Subject: The Trolls March On Recs: 9 Funny how the trolls change their IDs to try to keep up. They have so little value in their brains that one wonders why they bother. Summing up the Pro-SCO side so far: "Duh... I am making money bfrom a fraudulent IP claim, so I must be cool, huh?" Or "You guys should all shut up so I can keep crowing my inane banter and sucker some more people into buying this scam." Not one person on the Pro-SCO side can name even ONE piece of infringing code. Every time they try to claim one, it blows up in their face as the code is traced and found quickly. This destroys their pet theories, so you end up back with the above arguments lacking any intellect. It's a fool's game, and they want you to be the fool. Don't fall for it, have some core morals and do not buy or hold this stock. Would you crow over selling drugs? Would you crow over lo...

Message ID: 42583 Posted By: b29651 Posted On: 2003-09-16 11:52:00 Subject: TIME FOR FUD BUSTING MODE Recs: 0 start writing letters to editors of local papers that way when the circus comes you have already got the info about the scam out there course the problem will to cover it properly you will have to write several letters regards br3n ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "b29651" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 41451 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-13 16:44:00 Subject: Da Press liability Recs: 1 The press sold out for drinks and parties a long time ago. It is sad. Truly sad. It is a word called LAZY. It requires work to do thre job right. A lot of them are unwilling to do that. The analysts though, they have their hands in the jar up to their shoulders, and will probably suffer from this as well. That will percolate up to ALL boardroom levels when their communications are uncovered as being a part of this scam. They will end up doing more harm to their firms than if they had just let this company play its little game. I hope that CS & M subpoenas a few of them as well. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "freecode_99" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-Share...

Message ID: 41298 Posted By: korbomite Posted On: 2003-09-12 17:20:00 Subject: I hear the dath rattle Recs: 2 ...of the company formerly known as Caldera, now known universally as SCUMX or SCAMX. It might not BE 15 years, Darl. It might not be 15 DAYS. regards, k. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "korbomite" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 41238 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-12 15:49:00 Subject: Compatability Recs: 0 Okay, I went source browsing today. I didn't find anything with SCO fingerprints on it in 2.4.20. Greg Page of Caldera has a lot of fingerprints in there (without warranty), but who knows just how long that has been in there (i.e. - prior to 2.4). The 2.4 SMP document thanks Caldera for their contribution: "The author wishes to thank Caldera Inc. ( http://www.caldera.com )whose donation of an ASUS dual Pentium board made this project possible, and Thomas Radke, whose initial work on multiprocessor Linux formed the backbone of this project. So that is the clue where SMP came from - and it wasn't Caldera. http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/smp.tex#L27 "Much of the core SMP work is based on previous work by Thomas Radke, to whom a great many thanks are extended. Thanks to Intel for making available several different Pentium, Pentium ...

Message ID: 41123 Posted By: crunchie812 Posted On: 2003-09-12 13:53:00 Subject: GPL Business Model Recs: 7 The GPL is good for business. Unilever is a business, a VERY big business. They were able to do that math and see that by contributing funding directly to the development of Linux rather than blowing larger amounts on proprietary lock-in licensing, they can enhance their long term profitability. Businesses don't give a rats ass about the underlying platform, they care about the applications they need to run their business. And if they can run their business more profitaly by contracting out the application development than buying into open ended licensing scams with forced upgrades, they will. And if it looks more profitable to protect their investment and share the development costs with others by publishing the code under the GPL, then that is what they will do. It's about Business. Not about the Software Business, Business. It's about capitalism ...

Message ID: 40029 Posted By: notmrnice Posted On: 2003-09-10 10:17:00 Subject: ESR produces what SCO can't Recs: 10 ESR has developed a utility to compare source code trees. Linux users are no longer the hostages of SCO. We can now proactively resolve any IP issues, while SCO can kiss their Linux licencing scam goodbye. They can probably kiss their asses goodbye as well. hxxp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1258642,00.asp ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "notmrnice" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 38989 Posted By: notmrnice Posted On: 2003-09-08 16:15:00 Subject: No PR because: Recs: 1 The quiet from PR is logical, because of the phase of litigation they're in. Their efforts are probably equally divided among the following areas: 1) Discovery : Scramble to shred incriminating data while feeding the IBM lawyers. 2) Desperate search for new legal angles, after they blew their trump cards at SCOForum. 3) Consulting their personal legal counsels about the best strategy to stay out of jail. 4) Internal struggle, and blame game going on, as the SCO scam put the whole Canopy group in a suspicios light (ref. IBM's subpoena of the Canopy group). 5) Anxiously watching the stock ticker and the clock, hoping that options vest before game is up. 6) Any time left over for press releases? Nope. The principals are probably hiding under a bed, away from the scary monsters in the closet. ------------------------------------------------------------ The t...

Message ID: 38969 Posted By: leclite Posted On: 2003-09-08 15:56:00 Subject: Not just ledite Recs: 2 Fox, cyzq, etc. distinct from pimping, yoyo, and sirius, they generally repost the same old PR releases and periodically put stuff like "SCO UP UP UP" in the topic to build a perception of bullishness. a few even make up terms like "mirandiz" and "new reality" and spew them over and over again, since they lack the intelligence (or time/creativity) to vary their messages to any real degree. The other trolls (pimping et al) just like to gloat that they (hypothetically) bet on double zeros and came up ahead on this crapshoot stock. Mostly, like most pyramid scammers, their arguments boil down to "I made money, so i must be right". ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "leclite" u...

Message ID: 38960 Posted By: leclite Posted On: 2003-09-08 15:43:00 Subject: pumpers and trolls Recs: 0 .. only one of which provides a service. The former keeps the momentum up on their favorite scam and/or snake oil the latter is only here for their own amusement. Like most sociopaths, they are happiest "in control" - and prevoking a response is their only one of many ways of doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "leclite" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 38779 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-08 11:23:00 Subject: Dive! Dive! Dive! Recs: 1 Unterseebooten SCO Schiff - Somewhere in the Great Salt Lake area. Darl realizes at last the lake isn't the greatest place to try to run a submarine scam. We come in on the scene now: Von McBride: Dammit Chris, I thought I told you to get some new PR out there! Leutnant Sontag: But sir! The PR crew were jettisoned last week. They couldn't think of anything new! Besides, we can now run the same story over and over again. We don't have to do anything. Von McBride: Well, as long as we tell them we won't refund their money, they can't sue us for that if they pay. Herr Heise: That's right. It doesn't matter if you don't give them the option of an escrow account. You can keep running this story as long as you can get someone stupid enough to pay. Heck, anyone who does pay I wouldn't respect, but it furthers our cause. Von McBride: Leut...

Message ID: 38607 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-07 23:20:00 Subject: The Cavalry has arrived Recs: 2 Didn't LinuxGram originally have a curmudgeon editor prior to Maureen? I keep forgetting who that was... Anyway, the simple fact that CS&M added "unclean hands" and "not entitled to the requested relief" are significant. I suppose the little pumpers will now try to find a way to say that IBM is scared in the face of this evidence to the contrary. All I can say is that this has entered the realm of reality at last. DAY-UM. My prediction for tomorrow: 1) The ledite pumper army will be in full swing tomorrow by the AM starting arguments to try to keep the facts off the front page of this board (they always do). 2) My recommendation is that no matter how tempting their morsels of insane stupidity become - IGNORE THEM. 3) We should post relevant facts warning away unknowing investors who might otherwise be taken in by this scam. 4...

Message ID: 38542 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-07 16:36:00 Subject: Back, ready to rumble Recs: 5 For those who believe the strong sell position has anything to do with a position in this stock (or any other): GET REAL. I hate the attempted theft being perpetrated by the SCO Group. They have made a lifelong enemy. I will assist anyone who wishes to fight them in any way possible and legal. SGI has 545 patents and Caldera/SCO have what: copyrights? Ex post facto copyrights to boot. It won't hold water in a Court of law. SGI also performed a full review of XFS before releasing it under the GNU GPL. SCO/Caldera accepted the GPL and used it to their own benefit. They have acquiesced to its terms by their very usage. Ignorance of the law is NO excuse. That is what they are claiming - they were ignorant of the terms under which they distributed software. Sorry, f*ck off, you are a bunch of dimwits - that is true - but too bad, so sad, you chose to do what ...

Message ID: 38165 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-05 16:03:00 Subject: SCO's road to damnation Recs: 2 Wow, talk about your clueless people. Seems they hired James Maguire to write an article saying more BS. What a maroon! http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22226.html It looks like they want to find a way out of their mess. They are now saying they will "sell-off" the "licensing business" to IBM. ROTFLMAO. Sorry, the dogs have been let loose now. It simply isn't going to happen. They still don't get the whole Free and Open source thing do they? Dumbasses. They must be feeling the heat and trying to put their finger in the dike. Too bad it springs a new leak every few seconds and they are running out of appendages to stop the flow. It isn't ever going to go away - until they are no longer a viable company. That is the answer. Only that will suffice. You can't let them come back for a round two, they can't be allow...

Message ID: 37967 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-05 10:55:00 Subject: First coat on now Recs: 3 The paint is starting. Guess Tom Sawyer is out working the fence scam again. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "freecode_99" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 36149 Posted By: freecode_99 Posted On: 2003-09-01 23:37:00 Subject: Time to realize ther are no little guys Recs: 5 Okay folks, there are no little guys investors in this stock. The only people who are buying this up are those that are footing the campaign against GNU/Linux. That is the message we need to get out to the community. We need to make everyone aware of who the people are who have bought into this scam. We need to make people aware of their relationships and how this web ties together. We need to build the concrete examples of this that we have found into a positive case that can be shown publicly and remove the cover of the investment shadows to expose the light of day on their activities. Let the public then decide if they trust these people to be honest and above board. Let the IBM lawyers have a field day in discovery. If I were an IBM lawyer, I would go after every one of the institutional investors for their emails and correspondence as they ar...